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Here we are in October….Fall is here and it’s Halloween time.  Of course, at Disney, Halloween time is starting earlier and earlier every year.  This year, it began in AUGUST.  They decorated for fall and Halloween early in the 2nd week of August and the first Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween party was August 17th this year!  I’m sorry, I just can’t get in the mood for Halloween when I’m still hoping for beach and pool time, Disney or no Disney!

This is one of my favorite videos: it shows Walt Disney World getting ready for Halloween VERY quickly.  This particular transformation is from last year, but they follow pretty much the same process every year.  It’s short, but I think it’s kind of amazing how quickly Disney can make magic overnight….Take a look….

The video HELPS with the Halloween mood, but I still just couldn’t get in the mood until the weather here in the Midwest started to cool off and October showed up.  I realize that it’s still in the 80’s and 90’s in Florida, and that will continue for a few more weeks (or more)–but for us here in Chicago, October means cooler temperatures, leaves changing color, windy and often rainy days…so I tend to associate those things with Halloween.

So even though a few weeks of Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween parties (MNSSHP) have already taken place, I just couldn’t bring myself to post about this year’s party until now.

And really, many of you are starting to think about next year’s vacation plans, and you may be considering a trip for next fall.  September and October can be a wonderful time to visit Walt Disney World–kids have gone back to school, and while there are a couple three day weekends here and there, any family vacations planned during this time will require pulling kids out of school, at least for a day or two, and many families can’t make that work.  This CAN translate to lighter crowds than you might see at other times of the year.

If the fall is an option for your family, you could be considering MNSSHP.   With ticket prices starting at $85 and climbing as high as $125 for parties at the end of October, you may be asking yourself….$100+?????  Is it worth it???

That’s the big question, right?  And unfortunately, as ticket prices keep climbing every year, and the number of tickets they sell for the parties appears to keep climbing as well, that question is getting harder and harder to answer.

A few years ago, I would have told you, ABSOLUTELY, YES!  I would not have even thought twice.  I would have said, “If you have the time and the funds, plan on attending the party.” In those days, the tickets maxed out around $70…and Disney carefully capped the crowds to keep the parties feeling very much like a special “privileged” VIP event.  Don’t get me wrong; there were definitely lots of people, especially for “sold out” parties; however, these days, “sold out” is much closer to peak park attendance and borders on unpleasant, at least in my opinion.

What this means is that it’s not the automatic ABSOLUTELY YES that it used to be.  Now, it’s more important to really think about whether this is a value for you and your travel group.  Does this make sense for you?

Let’s take a look at the basics first.

What are you getting for the price of your ticket?

• Access to the Magic Kingdom with your party ticket as early as 4 p.m., until the party ends at Midnight.  Note: the party doesn’t actually begin until 7 p.m.–however, if you really want to maximize the value of your party ticket, do NOT use a park pass day to visit any parks on party day.  Make it a relaxing day.  Enjoy the resort, or plan the party for your travel day.  Get to the Magic Kingdom in time to enter the park at 4 p.m., so you can play a little  and perhaps eat dinner before the party begins.   Bonus: If you’ve managed to have a restful day, you’re much more likely to have energy to enjoy the whole party–right through until the end–Midnight.  If you’re likely to be wiped out by 9:30 p.m., most likely you won’t feel like you got a good value for your $100.
• Boo to You Parade:  The Boo to You Parade is ONLY offered during MNSSHP.  It’s offered twice a night, and a lot of people with little kids tend to clear out after the first parade.  I usually recommend hitting the second parade…While lots of people are watching the first parade, you will likely find shorter lines for attractions and character greetings.  In my opinion, the Boo to You Parade is a really great parade.  If the weather is good, you usually get to see the Headless Horseman riding along the parade route shortly before the parade begins…it’s eerie and awesome.  The parade is fun, and there are lots of things you don’t normally get to see.  Having said that–if you have been to these parties a couple of times, the parade doesn’t change.  It doesn’t get updated, it hasn’t changed in several years.  I love it, but it alone is not worth the price of the ticket, especially if you’ve seen it before.

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• Characters in Costume:  One of my favorite things about MNSSHP is that you get to see the characters in their Halloween costumes.  I really enjoy seeing Minnie in her Witch outfit or Daisy as a princess and Donald as her knight….Some years there is some variety in the costumes, but reviewing pictures from the last few years, it seems that many character costumes get repeated.  Regardless, it’s still a lot of fun.

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• Special Character Greetings: MNSSHP is especially fun if you love character greetings, because often, there are characters available for character greetings during the Halloween party that you would never get to see otherwise.  For example, this year’s party features Anastasia and Drizella (Cinderella’s stepsisters), Cruella DeVil, Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee, the Queen of Hearts, Jack Skellington and Sally, the Gravediggers, Brer Rabit, Brer Fox and Brer Bear, Moana, Jafar, Tarzan, Jane, Terk, Elvis Stitch, Lotso (Toy Story 3), the Seven Dwarfs, Alice and the Mad Hatter, among others.  You’ll also find a lot of your regular favorites in their Halloween costumes, like Goofy, Minnie, Daisy, Donald, Pooh, Piglet, Eeyore, and Tigger.  And of course you can still find all your favorite princesses at Princess Fairy Tale Hall.

  

One caveat to consider:  As both parties and character greetings have become more popular, the lines have gotten longer and longer for many of the more popular “unique” characters at these parties.  If that picture with the Seven Dwarfs or Jack & Sally is your holy grail, you may need to plan your entire party experience around it, getting in line extra early, and being prepared to WAIT.  Last time I went to MNSSHP, we saw lines for some of the most popular characters that exceeded 90 minutes.  These parties are only five hours long, and that if you stay until midnight, so you do have to prioritize what you REALLY want to do.

• HalloWishes:  What would an evening at the Magic Kingdom be without fireworks?  MNSSHP is no exception.  Usually at 9 or 9:30 p.m. (check the schedule for the night of your party), Disney will present HalloWishes, a spectacular Villains themed fireworks spectacular…and it is really terrific.  And again, it is something you can only see if you’re at the party.  Or having dinner at Narcoosee’s at the Grand Floridian during a party.  Or at the California Grill at the Contemporary Resort.  Or on the beach at the Polynesian Resort.  Or on your Magic Kingdom facing balcony at Bay Lake Tower.  But I digress.  Honestly, while all those locations outside the park are great ways to watch Disney fireworks and get a different perspective, there is nothing like BEING in the park during one of the shows to really be WOWED.  And HalloWishes is a WOW show.  At least for me personally.  But I’m a big fan of Disney fireworks shows, especially all the incarnations that have been at Magic Kingdom.  This is another show that has remained the same for many years.  I still love it, I still think it adds a lot of value to the party, but I know there are those that say that if you’ve seen it a few times, it might not be worth the ticket price anymore. Or that it might be wiser to squeeze in another character greeting or attraction instead of watching HalloWishes.

Hallowishes fireworks Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party (Photo: Disney Parks)

Pictures Courtesy of Disney Photopass Gallery

• Hocus Pocus Villain Spelltacular: This is a very popular stage show that was new for the 2015 MNSSHP, based on the very popular Disney “cult classic” 1993 film staring Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimy.  While the movie basically bombed when it originally came out, it has become a revered Halloween seasonal favorite for many as the years have gone on, thanks to frequent cable and network airings.  The Castle Mainstage productions are always very popular at these parties; the shows are usually 20 – 25 minutes long, and generally fairly crowded.  This one has been more positively received that the two Villain themed shows that preceded it…but it has the same idea at it’s heart…bring as many favorite villains on to the stage as possible as Halloween is the time when the villains get to rule the night…It’s a great chance to get pictures of villains you may not see very often.

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• Scream-o-Ween Dance Party: These dance parties are fairly hilarious…this one is in Tomorrowland, and includes Mike, Sully and Boo.  They try to get everyone dancing and usually, it’s the littlest kids that are the most fun to watch.
• Trick or Treating: There are several candy stations set up throughout the park, so you can take you trick or treat bag to each station (wait in line) and get your “free” candy.  For me personally, these are kind of a waste of time.  The candy is usually not great–it’s whoever donated it that year–there’s almost never any chocolate (probably smart in the Florida heat and humidity…but come on!  Halloween without Hershey kisses or mini-candy bars???  It’s a crime!!)  Anyways, it’s usually odd flavored hard candy or other strange things–I don’t know, I haven’t been too impressed with this element of the parties.  I think if you have little kids that LOVE to trick or treat, they might get a kick out of it, but the lines were so long at the last party we went to, it just was not any fun.
• Cadaver Dans Barbershop Quartet:  Sure you can see the “Dapper” Dans any old day at the Magic Kingdom, and they are terrific….but you can only find the “Cadaver Dans” at MNSSHP.  These guys perform in Frontierland try to kill you with laughter…or something like that.  They’re pretty fun if you catch them.

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• Special Treats: There are special food items and treats that are only for sale during MNSSHP.  Note: If any of these items turn out to be REALLY popular, you may see them show up on a regular menu or kiosk in the future…sometimes the parties are a bit of a testing ground for new items.  Or a “special” themed cupcake that’s only for the party will end up being sold during the day throughout October.  So take the “only for sale during the party” idea with a grain of salt.  This year’s “special treats” include: Pumpkin Cheesecake (Main Street Bakery), Hades Nachos (Pecos Bill’s), Worms and Dirt (Pecos Bill’s), Zero Waffle Sundae (Sleepy Hollow), Jack Skellington Cake Push Pop (Sleepy Hollow), Madame Leota Dessert (Liberty Square Market), Hitchhiking Ghost Dessert (Aloha Isle), Oogie Boogie Meringue (Gaston’s Tavern), and the Muenster Smash Burger (Cosmic Ray’s).

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• Special Party Only Merchandise: There is special merchandise that is only available during MNSSHP.  And they are NOT kidding with this one.  The stuff comes out at 7 p.m. (or a little before) and you cannot buy it without a party ticket.  AND once it’s gone, apparently, it’s gone.  I have been disappointed a few times by having my heart set on a particular pin or shirt, only to find it was sold out by the time I got to a party (or was ready to buy at the end of the night).  This year’s special party only merchandise includes a limited edition Magic Band, party themed pins, special passholder only pins, and a villains themed pin set; party themed shirts and an ear ornament, themed to the party.  There is also a line of products themed to the Hocus Pocus Villain Spelltacular, including a mug, tote bag, shirt and collectibles.  Some items are special for passholders only.  There’s also a line of “Hocus Pocus Costume” t-shirts designed to “sub” for a costume–and again, only available at the Party.   The “party only” merchandise has always been a big draw for me for these events I’m not gonna lie.  I’m a shopper.  There’s no getting around it.  If the party’s at the beginning of your trip, take advantage of package delivery, and have your purchases delivered to your resort for free.   Then you don’t have to lug them around the party all night.  A word of warning:  Buy it when you see if the first time if you want it….or risk dragging your poor husband through every shop in the park as the park is closing to find that exact special party only item you HAVE to have that you didn’t buy when you saw it earlier in the evening…not that I know anything about that, of course.

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• Shorter lines for popular attractions due to smaller crowds:  This one is getting a little more questionable as Disney is selling more tickets for these parties, and the parties are becoming more crowded.  Generally, the idea is that because the park is closed to day guests, and the number of party attendees is “much less” than a typical “crowded” park day, the attraction lines are shorter.  However, the same thing happens during the party that happens during the day: people gravitate to the most popular attractions, so some queues for less popular rides are walk ons, and there will be long lines at popular attractions.  The line might be 60 minutes instead of the 150 minutes you might see during a typical crowded afternoon, but during a short 5 hour party….you have to decide how much time you are willing to wait in line, especially if you know you may be able to ride these same attractions later in your trip.  It does get better later in the evening, especially after the first Boo to You parade is over, and even more so after the fireworks.  The last two hours are usually pretty good for both character greetings and attractions, unless the party is VERY crowded, with obvious exceptions being VERY popular character greetings (like Jack & Sally) and attractions (like Seven Dwarfs Mine Train).
• Exclusive Photopass “Magic Shots”: there are special magic shots that Photopass photographers can only do during MNSSHP.  If you’ve been reading my blog for long, you probably already know that I am a NUT for photos, so the special magic shots are a real seller for me, especially because they really weren’t doing these a few years ago…this is one of the areas where the parties have started offering MORE, instead of less.  This year, there are a number of special magic shot opportunities, according to the Disney Parks Blog.  There are a couple shots on Main Streets where your party will be joined by some mysterious “ghostly” visitors.  At the entrance of the Magic Kingdom, you can get a great shot where the headless horseman joins your family.  There’s a scary glowing pumpkin shot that mimics the traditional “Tinkerbell” in your palm photo…that one looks pretty cool.  Over near the Haunted Mansion, you can hitchhike with some friends, take a ride in a ghost driven hearse, and perhaps meet a very famous HatBox Ghost.  The ghostly ones are my favorites, and I’m excited to see so many new ones have popped up.

Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party (Photo: Disney Parks)

Pictures Courtesy of Disney Parks Blog

And there’s one more “hidden” benefit, that’s not TECHNICALLY included in your party ticket, but tends to be one of the BEST parts of attending a MNSSHP: seeing all the guests that come to the party in costume!  Costume regulations and rules have gotten a lot more strict in the last couple of years due to safety concerns, so this isn’t QUITE as much fun as it used to be, but it is still a heck of a lot of fun.  I’ve been surprised at how many guests dress up in costume.  Some go VERY elaborate–others go pretty casual and easy with it, but it’s so much fun to see what everyone has thought of!  And it’s even more fun to plan a costume for yourself or a group theme for your whole family or travel group….Just keep in mind the warm temperatures.  You do NOT want to spend the evening melting in your costume…and be sure to review Disney’s costume guidelines here.

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So we come back to the original question: Is it worth it?

Some things I suggest you consider:

• Have you ever been to a Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween Party before?  If not, I think you should probably put a point in the YES column.  It’s definitely something everyone should do at least once, if they have the opportunity and means.
• Do you like Halloween?  Let’s face it, if you are NOT a Halloween person, don’t like it when people dress up, don’t see the point of trick or treating and don’t enjoy scary movies (even funny/scary)…You probably should just give MNSSHP a pass.  It’s just not your cup of tea.  However, if you LOVE Halloween, love getting dressed up, LOVE all things ghostly and pumpkin related…you may want to put another point in the YES column.

• Can you plan the party attendance into your trip so that a) you don’t spend the whole day in another park and get worn out b) you are able to be in costume, ready to start your evening, at Magic Kingdom, at 4 p.m. (or 5 at the latest?) c) feel like you are likely to be able to enjoy the whole party, all the way through until Midnight? and d) deal with the impact that late night will have on the NEXT day–can that day be a rest day?  Or a water park day that starts at 10 instead of 7?  If all these answers are yes, that’s another point for the Yes column.  If all are NO, then you may want to pass on the party.  If you come down more mixed up, you probably need to do some careful thinking.
• Do things like special merchandise, special food, special photopass magic shots ONLY available tat the party matter to you?  If they’re important, put a point in the YES column.  If you could care less, that’s a point in the No column.

• How do you feel about parades?  If you love the idea of a unique, nighttime parade featuring characters you don’t often get to seem, put a point in the YES column.  If you really don’t enjoy parades, hate having to find a place to sit or stand to watch the parade, get annoyed with the crowds, etc., that’s a point for the NO column.
• How do you feel about fireworks?  If you are a fireworks fiend, put a point in the Yes column.  If you don’t care about them, or strongly prefer to avoid them, that’s another check in the NO column.

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• Where do you land on special Character greetings?  Are they important to you?  If so, that’s another Yes vote.  If you can’t be bothered, that’s a big NO.
• How many people in your group?  What are their ages?  There are a couple of reasons to look at this.  For two adults, it’s a lot easier to move around the party and avoid crowds, moving quickly and adapting the plan as needed.  For two adults and two kids in strollers, it gets more difficult to move through crowds, and the priorities are doing things that will make the kids happy.  Skipping the trick or treat stations may not be an option.  Staying until midnight may not be something you want to do.   You need to plan ahead for parade and show seating, which will eat up some of your time from attractions, character greetings or trick or treating, so you’ll need to consider your priorities.  For three adults, a six year old and two teens, there are still more things to consider.  Do you want to stay together the whole time?  Split up for part of it?  Does everyone have the same interests?  Do you want to focus on the shows and parade, or rides and character greetings?  Think about the group you would bring to the party.  Consider whether they would enjoy it, and whether you would enjoy it with them.  If the answer is yes, then that’s more points in the YES column.  If you’re not sure, you’ve got some more thinking to do.

• Can you afford it?  This is REALLY the big question.  A Disney vacation is an investment.  For many of us, it’s something we have budgeted for, and planned for and saved for.  You have to consider your budget.  Realistically, can you afford the tickets for the party for your group?  Will it put a dent in your food budget or your souvenir budget?  Or, since you are doing the party one day, could you buy 1 day less on your Magic Your Way tickets, and make up some savings that way?  Could that make it work for you?  I know not everyone needs to worry about these matters.  For some people, budget it not a concern.  If money is no object, and you want to go to the party for 2-5 hours, go for it.  It’s a fun time, with lots of unique experiences.  But for those of us who are more budget conscious, it usually means a trade off.  What do I have to give up, if I buy these tickets?  So give that some thought, and make sure you are comfortable with your choice.
• Consider the value:  If you pay $100 for your party ticket (less if you go in August or September, more if you go closer to Halloween), and you attend the party from 7 p.m. – 12 p.m., you’re spending $20 per hour for the party.  Think about all the things available at the party, and recognize you will not be able to do all of them.  Think about the things that would be most important to you and your travel group, and imagine that with proper planning you’ll be able to do at least most of them.  Would you feel like you got $20 per hour worth of value for each person?  Would you feel good about your investment?   If you enter the park at 4 pm, you’ve added a couple hours to your park time, and now you’re spending $12.50 an hour.  Conversely, if you leave at 10 p.m. and arrived at 7 p.m., you’ve spent $33.33 an hour.  You are the only one that can determine the right value for you and your family or travel group.

Do I still think the parties are worth it?  Mostly.  It’s hard, because I struggle a little bit with that “good old days” thing.  They used to not be so crowded.  They used to be more affordable.  They used to have this.  They sometimes had that.  Blah blah blah.  But time marches on, and we live in the here and now.

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Today, given what we are hearing about the crowds and the lines, is it still worth it? For me personally, it’s probably still yes.  It’s not as strong a yes as it used to be, and I’d try to stay a lot closer to that $80 than the $100.  If I really wanted to attend, I would spend some extra time planning and try and choose a night that would hopefully not be sold out or super crowded.  I would choose a night earlier in the season when prices are lower, and I would take advantage of whatever discounts I could.  I would probably plan my night pretty carefully to make sure I could maximize the things that are important to me and my group.  But gosh…when you sit down and think about all that you can see and do in 5 hours, all the options available…it’s hard to imagine NOT finding $20 per hour worth of value in that….for me personally.  But that’s me.

I love the parade, I love the fireworks, I love the shows, and the silly dance parties and seeing everyone all dressed up.  I love the special merchandise and the silly special food items, and the Haunted Horseman.  I love the characters that wander around, talking to guests, that you don’t have to wait in line for, that you might just bump into.  I love the different lighting and music that plays during the parties.  I love the festive mood of the parties.  I love watching little kids’ faces when they see the gravediggers making sparks on the street with their shovels during the parade, or when they see Mickey and Minnie in their Halloween finery.

You have to think about what you love.  And what’s important for your vacation.  Your group.  And your budget.  And then of course you have to think about the magic and the memories you want to bring home from your trip.  And if it makes sense for you and your group, go for it.

The bottom line: you’ll have lots of amazing moments throughout your trip, whether you go to the party or not.  Come on, it’s DISNEY!  You KNOW it will be magical!

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If you have any questions, I’m here to help!

Happy Dreaming!

Brooke